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Would you say that you're an artist or that you're a game artist? Bennett: Sex chats for leary feel like if I introduce myself as an artist, people will misunderstand what I think what I'm doing, but I do view my work through an artistic lens. I think that my work is artwork oved I refer to it as artwork.

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Would you say that you're an artist or that you're a game artist? Bennett: I feel like if I introduce myself as an artist, people will misunderstand what I think what I'm doing, but I do view my work through an artistic lens. I think that my work is artwork and I refer to it as artwork. I use artistic structures and language to talk about what it is that I'm making, and how I approach it, and what I hope to do, and who I compare myself with.

I should say, I take a very big free chat lines girls wanting to fuck of what artwork can be. It includes low culture and popular culture and so on. Jesper: About that indie label, is it a label you like or is it just there?

Bennett: I think it's become more of an ill fit over time, not just for me but for the community as a whole. We're now at a point where the, I think, substantial majority of people at Game Developers Conference identify as indie developers.

There's been enormous upswing in people who identify that way. They can't all possibly mean the same thing. When I say indie developer, what I really mean is I'm part of a loosely overlapping community of people who have been involved in the same spaces, physically and digitally, creating similar kind of work and referencing each other's work since the mids. My strict understanding is that, of course, independent development was part of making games since the beginning of video games.

But I yateley adult chat want to give any sort of procedural definition of what indie is to me. It is much more of a set of specific relationships, tastes, fashion chat lesbian, and physical and gay black chat situations. So that's what indie is to me. It's particular to me and my context.

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Jesper: I wanted to ask you about your games. I guess we can also talk about what would make them indie. They all seem to have a tongue in cheek aspect to them, there are layers that often come across as earnest at first. In QWOP, it seems like someone earnestly tried to do 16 bit graphics with muscle tone chat avenue free chat. And then you have also typical goals: you have to get very far, get a lot of points, or be very fast.

Then that's undercut by the way you control the game, but in different ways. But in Super Pole Riders you control a pole, but there are just some things that are very hard and lead to comic situations.

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But you do get a feeling of competence. Getting over It is in between, you get to climb, and the character responds, but then the extremely difficult situations come up later. Bennett: Yeah.

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They're both games that maybe look easier than they are. But in Getting Over It, at least on a micro level, the character is doing exactly what you're asking him to do at all times. This is quite unlike QWOP where you press a button hoping for a certain thing to married and unhappy chat in norway and something unexpected happens.

Jesper: There's something in your games about personal suffering, but there's also something communal about that.

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Today we would say they're made for streaming, even though your early games weren't originally? That culture had to be invented and strengthened before QWOP could take off as a viral hit.

But two years after I launched it, there was a Let's Play with a guy playing my game secret friends chat a silly voice, a very deep voice. It was Cr1t1KaL. That was seen by some larger YouTubers, some of whom were Let's Players. PewDewPie is an example, or some of the people who just digest other people's videos, like Ray William Johnson.

I think the YouTube people were looking for work that they could play and perform and react to. QWOP was definitely not created with that in mind, ovrr was made for players in the privacy of their own home. But I first noticed that it could work in this communal way at Babycastles in New York, because Kunal and Syed were very interested in showing it.

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I trekked out to Queens, went down into the basement and watched people playing it. It had an impact on me because from that point forward, I spent the chhat five or six or seven years gettting games for those venues, for Babycastles in particular, for Wild Rumpus, Juegos Rancheros, Prince free to message dating sites shreveport Arcade, and so on around the world. A lot of the games I made hetting multiplayer games, but Getring started to think and talk about the idea of deing for spectacle, deing for the person who is waiting to play the game so that they can watch and draw some enjoyment for it.

It's very core to multiplayer game de, especially for party situations. I think it now is so deeply baked into my understanding of how to make a game or in my personal aesthetics that I don't even think about it, but it seems to find its way back in. I would trace chat with asian women back to it being accidental in QWOP and just the history of being in those live spaces.

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I think that's how it happened for me. Jesper: You were lucky with the arrival of YouTube and streaming culture? Bennett: Of course. I mean, YouTube, started earlier, but it was not this mecca of video game Let's Plays.

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You can't de for something that doesn't exist or that you don't know exists. If you de something that winds up being attractive in that venue or context, then you have to call it luck, right? It can't be anything other black sex chat luck.

Or at best, it's that all of experiences and influences that I experienced during the first years of the internet, were also experienced by the people who went on to become Let's Players. Maybe there was a shared zeitgeist that I was tapping into it, but it was definitely not deliberate. Jesper: I was wondering. There are lots of ways to interpret your games. One might be that they're moralistic. Lewes sex chat tying into the discussion about the role of optimization in video games, where many people feel that too much optimization will make you so single-minded that there are various things you're going to miss.

And then, in a way, your games make people snap chat room horny women of that, forcing them to reflect on the fact that they're not good enough, or that there's something fundamental about the way they're interacting with the game?

Bennett: Well, it doesn't snap gftting out of it adult chat totally free springfield. Of course, for people who have that characteristic, it brings it out even more strongly, the stuff that I do. I don't think you're wrong that there is something moralistic or a moralized aesthetic in my games.

I have strong moralized tastes when it comes to games, the aesthetics of games and the aesthetics of play. But I don't think that's one of them. I would say that one of my strongest moral aesthetics is that the player should not be the rokm of the game. The player should not be the master of the game.

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I think the game, lesbian girl chat the deer, but at least the game itself deserves to have some control over the player, to have some mastery over the player. Some disobedience is the word I always prefer to use. I strongly prefer games that have some feeling of disobedience because I don't see how playfulness can exist in an obedient piece athiest chat software.

Unless, maybe, in a multiplayer situation where two players can be disobedient with each other. But single player games are, historically, a reasonably strange thing. We have a sudden proliferation of them. I remember seeing one of the first books about Solitaire.

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The subtitle is "A Pastime for Invalids. But without a lot of this theorization. Jesper: You're playing into this discussion about whether a game should be something that allows players to express themselves, or whether games should be an authorial construct? You seem to be on the authorial intent side of that? Bennett: I voer games that allow you to express yourself.

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I like them. I feel like we're in a golden age of them. There are local black chat line numbers lot of overt creativity games, singles chat line then there are a lot of other games that offer you all sorts of different ways to play or to represent yourself, embody yourself in different sorts of ways.

I wouldn't want to reduce my position to saying that I'm giving primacy to authorial intent. Jesper: Okay. Primacy to the object, then? Bennett: I studied English literature at a time when "Death of the Author" was still considered very relevant. I'm on board with a sort of general post-modernist project. It's not that I gettinng, as the author, to be able to control the experience romo to control the ways the experiences are interpreted.

I suppose the point that I'm warming to is that in a game of Solitaire, there's something very thin and very uninteresting about the whole experience being authored by the player. I think that where games are interesting, where there is a source of play, whether it's a context for play, is when ovver is friction for the player.

When there is disobedience, when there is argument, when there are all these sorts of tricks making fun of the player, pushing back on the player, questioning the player, criticizing the player. These are all things that you can do very freely in a two player game, almost every two player game. But if it's Solitaire, we now need to define a role for the game itself in performing these functions because if you don't, it is really just a machine for producing a particular neuropsychological effect, which is fine.

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I like those things, but that's not what I want to build. I want to build things that are in dialogue with the player that do more than simply 1 free chat rooms a mental state. Jesper: And just to be clear, disobedience is the game being disobedient to the player?

Bennett: And I cnat the reason I use that word is that I think there's a universal orthodoxy in software that it should obey the eoom. I started thinking about this after seeing Robert Yang's presentation on his spanking game, Hurt Me Plenty. In Hurt Me Plenty you spank the simulated character.